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	<title>Comments on: Targeting Mormons on Proposition 8</title>
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	<description>an unseemly mix of politics and Mormonism</description>
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		<title>By: djinn</title>
		<link>http://asoftanswer.com/2008/10/21/targeting-mormons-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-5389</link>
		<dc:creator>djinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite possible that I&#039;m wrong, I&#039;d be interested to hear your exegesis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite possible that I&#8217;m wrong, I&#8217;d be interested to hear your exegesis</p>
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		<title>By: devon palmer</title>
		<link>http://asoftanswer.com/2008/10/21/targeting-mormons-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-5387</link>
		<dc:creator>devon palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to djinn:

or woman, sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to djinn:</p>
<p>or woman, sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: devon palmer</title>
		<link>http://asoftanswer.com/2008/10/21/targeting-mormons-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-5386</link>
		<dc:creator>devon palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to djinn:

talk about someone who doesn&#039;t understand the scriptures nor the culture of the people referred to in it. please learn about the customs of the ancients before you make an ignorant statement that totally misrepresents the facts. you don&#039;t exactly sound like a God-loving man or a disciple.

devon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to djinn:</p>
<p>talk about someone who doesn&#8217;t understand the scriptures nor the culture of the people referred to in it. please learn about the customs of the ancients before you make an ignorant statement that totally misrepresents the facts. you don&#8217;t exactly sound like a God-loving man or a disciple.</p>
<p>devon</p>
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		<title>By: djinn</title>
		<link>http://asoftanswer.com/2008/10/21/targeting-mormons-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-5293</link>
		<dc:creator>djinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God also hates shrimp, mixing cotton with linen, and thinks it&#039;s just peachy to kill your children for misbehavior.  That last one shows up twice.  So God is roughly as pro fillicide as he is anti-homosexual, if the Bible is your last word on the subject.  And don&#039;t forget Johnathan and David.  David loved Jonathan.  And as soon as the lad was gone, David arose out of a place toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himself three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, until David exceeded.  Samuel 20:41; I don&#039;t think God&#039;s as homophobic as you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God also hates shrimp, mixing cotton with linen, and thinks it&#8217;s just peachy to kill your children for misbehavior.  That last one shows up twice.  So God is roughly as pro fillicide as he is anti-homosexual, if the Bible is your last word on the subject.  And don&#8217;t forget Johnathan and David.  David loved Jonathan.  And as soon as the lad was gone, David arose out of a place toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himself three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, until David exceeded.  Samuel 20:41; I don&#8217;t think God&#8217;s as homophobic as you think.</p>
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		<title>By: who cares</title>
		<link>http://asoftanswer.com/2008/10/21/targeting-mormons-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-5291</link>
		<dc:creator>who cares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t attack your church for doing something. It is one of the fundamentals of life that marriage is between a man and a woman; gays can’t even have children. If you even believe in God and the Bible, it states that unnatural marriage is wrong, the unnatural part being homosexuality. Now I know everyone is entitle to their own opinion, another basic ideal of my church, so you can have yours, but don’t persecute me for mine. Our church has already had enough persecution for absolutely no reason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t attack your church for doing something. It is one of the fundamentals of life that marriage is between a man and a woman; gays can’t even have children. If you even believe in God and the Bible, it states that unnatural marriage is wrong, the unnatural part being homosexuality. Now I know everyone is entitle to their own opinion, another basic ideal of my church, so you can have yours, but don’t persecute me for mine. Our church has already had enough persecution for absolutely no reason</p>
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		<title>By: djinn</title>
		<link>http://asoftanswer.com/2008/10/21/targeting-mormons-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-5109</link>
		<dc:creator>djinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, well, well. It turns out some of the people involved in the Prop. 8 fight have, in fact, been doing their darndest to blackmail their opponents. However, it’s the “YES ON 8? people. And they admit it.

http://www.cbs8.com/stories/story.144185.html
Here’s some quotes:
“(A letter sent to a real estate company that donated to No on 8 said ) if Jim doesn’t give an equal donation to Yes on 8, the name of his company will be published. It reads in part, “It is only fair for Proposition 8 supporters to know which companies and organizations oppose traditional marriage.

“I feel like it’s blackmail, and as you can imagine, real estate business has been tough lately and to have someone come at you like this… it’s very distressing,” he said.

Yes on 8 confirms they sent around 30 companies the letter. A spokeswoman told News 8 they are just trying to hold their ground in a passionate race. She added that No on 8 supporters picketed the Manchester Grand Hyatt after Doug Manchester donated $125,000 thousand. The publicity caused at least one very large group to cancel its event at the hotel.

She also pointed to a popular blog that asked readers to dig up dirt on Yes on 8 supporters, see if they’ve contributed to less than honorable causes, or have done something otherwise egregious, with the hope they can force the Yes on 8 campaign to return their contributions, or face a bunch of negative publicity.

But News 8 couldn’t find anything from No on 8 supporters demanding money from Yes on 8 supporters.

As for Jim, he stands behind his donation, and will not be making a similar one to Yes on 8.”

Got that? Actual blackmail from Yes on 8 supporters. No blackmail at all from No on 8 supporters.



The letter was signed by four members of the group’s executive committee: campaign chairman Ron Prentice; Edward Dolejsi, executive director of the California Catholic Conference; Mark Jansson, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; and Andrew Pugno, a lawyer for ProtectMarriage.com.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_el_st_lo/gay_marriage_1

I somehow suspect this will fall out as negative publicity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, well, well. It turns out some of the people involved in the Prop. 8 fight have, in fact, been doing their darndest to blackmail their opponents. However, it’s the “YES ON 8? people. And they admit it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbs8.com/stories/story.144185.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbs8.com/stories/story.144185.html</a><br />
Here’s some quotes:<br />
“(A letter sent to a real estate company that donated to No on 8 said ) if Jim doesn’t give an equal donation to Yes on 8, the name of his company will be published. It reads in part, “It is only fair for Proposition 8 supporters to know which companies and organizations oppose traditional marriage.</p>
<p>“I feel like it’s blackmail, and as you can imagine, real estate business has been tough lately and to have someone come at you like this… it’s very distressing,” he said.</p>
<p>Yes on 8 confirms they sent around 30 companies the letter. A spokeswoman told News 8 they are just trying to hold their ground in a passionate race. She added that No on 8 supporters picketed the Manchester Grand Hyatt after Doug Manchester donated $125,000 thousand. The publicity caused at least one very large group to cancel its event at the hotel.</p>
<p>She also pointed to a popular blog that asked readers to dig up dirt on Yes on 8 supporters, see if they’ve contributed to less than honorable causes, or have done something otherwise egregious, with the hope they can force the Yes on 8 campaign to return their contributions, or face a bunch of negative publicity.</p>
<p>But News 8 couldn’t find anything from No on 8 supporters demanding money from Yes on 8 supporters.</p>
<p>As for Jim, he stands behind his donation, and will not be making a similar one to Yes on 8.”</p>
<p>Got that? Actual blackmail from Yes on 8 supporters. No blackmail at all from No on 8 supporters.</p>
<p>The letter was signed by four members of the group’s executive committee: campaign chairman Ron Prentice; Edward Dolejsi, executive director of the California Catholic Conference; Mark Jansson, a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; and Andrew Pugno, a lawyer for ProtectMarriage.com.”</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_el_st_lo/gay_marriage_1" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081023/ap_on_el_st_lo/gay_marriage_1</a></p>
<p>I somehow suspect this will fall out as negative publicity.</p>
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		<title>By: David H. Sundwall</title>
		<link>http://asoftanswer.com/2008/10/21/targeting-mormons-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-5100</link>
		<dc:creator>David H. Sundwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the clarification Dan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification Dan.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey everyone, that post on Daily Kos that got deleted was my post. I deleted it. I felt the feelings were too raw and we couldn&#039;t have a sensible debate about it, so I deleted the post after 450 or so comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey everyone, that post on Daily Kos that got deleted was my post. I deleted it. I felt the feelings were too raw and we couldn&#8217;t have a sensible debate about it, so I deleted the post after 450 or so comments.</p>
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		<title>By: A MORMON</title>
		<link>http://asoftanswer.com/2008/10/21/targeting-mormons-on-proposition-8/comment-page-1/#comment-5096</link>
		<dc:creator>A MORMON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://mormonsforprop8.blogspot.com/

lol</description>
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<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: Chino Blanco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chino Blanco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you work yourself into too much of a lather over the DK post that was taken down ...

Pls note that it was the author himself who took down the post, not DK.

You can read all about it here:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/14/2522/4624

I guess the author finally got a clue about this offensive sentence in his diary:

&quot;I personally don&#039;t like someone who has homosexual tendencies claiming that he or she is somehow normal.&quot;

Bigot (the poster, not you).

Anyway, what&#039;s my point, David?  What&#039;s my point?  

My point is that you and 95% of your co-religionists are out-of-bounds and out-of-control on this one.  You&#039;ve lost you&#039;re bleeding senses. 

Re your other question, how do I know that about the poster?  I don&#039;t.  I&#039;m just making stuff up.  It&#039;s a lot easier than trying to get one&#039;s facts straight, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you work yourself into too much of a lather over the DK post that was taken down &#8230;</p>
<p>Pls note that it was the author himself who took down the post, not DK.</p>
<p>You can read all about it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/14/2522/4624" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/14/2522/4624</a></p>
<p>I guess the author finally got a clue about this offensive sentence in his diary:</p>
<p>&#8220;I personally don&#8217;t like someone who has homosexual tendencies claiming that he or she is somehow normal.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bigot (the poster, not you).</p>
<p>Anyway, what&#8217;s my point, David?  What&#8217;s my point?  </p>
<p>My point is that you and 95% of your co-religionists are out-of-bounds and out-of-control on this one.  You&#8217;ve lost you&#8217;re bleeding senses. </p>
<p>Re your other question, how do I know that about the poster?  I don&#8217;t.  I&#8217;m just making stuff up.  It&#8217;s a lot easier than trying to get one&#8217;s facts straight, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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