Keith Olbermann declares Elder Oaks one of the worst people in the world

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Hall of shame or badge of honor? I’ll take the latter, but it just goes to show what power the Associated Press has in setting the standard media message. It lifts one sentence from a talk, distorts the meaning behind it, grossly exaggerating it out of context and news outlets across the country relay it unquestioningly. Then Mr. Olbermann gets to call out Elder Oaks as one of the “worst people in the world” (I guess it lasts for only a day so don’t be too concerned).

Quick aside: are all those who are so concerned about Glenn Beck okay with Keith Olbermann and his brand of “civility”?

Unsurprisingly, the Church-owned Deseret News didn’t follow suit. But the local City Weekly takes umbrage that the DN refused to copy and paste the AP’s characterization of Elder Oaks’ talk and decided to write its own story instead. More outrage.

Curious to hear Elder Oaks explain himself? Ignore the video above and see below.


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109 comments

  1. Alan’s avatar

    Matt:

    With all due respect, you are lamenting religious freedom being “under fire” after the Mormon and Catholic Churches (among others) spearheaded the movement to take away marriage equality in California.

    It is unclear to me what rights you have lost or how the right to practice your religion has been impacted. Mormons, Catholics and other religious groups still have the right to fully practice their religion in California, Maine and the other 48 states of the United States. On the other hand, because of the actions of supporters of Proposition 8 (in California) and Question 1 (in Maine), gays and lesbians have lost a real, tangible right — the right to marry. There is simply no comparison.

  2. gloria LeSueur’s avatar

    My comments are balanced……. Just not tipping the scales to your point of view BENJAMIN!!!!! lol………

  3. Alan’s avatar

    Well, Ms. LeSueur:

    I don’t know you really are, but I know that I am not Benjamin.

    While Benjamin’s comments may have been a little out there, people can get a little cranky when their rights are taken away–as happened to gays and lesbians in California and Maine in the past year.

  4. Shane’s avatar

    It would seem to me that one of the fundamental questions of this issue is; Are the rights of the gays and lesbians being taken away? and the follow up question; “Is it a right to marry?”

    It would seem that the right to marry would fall under the right to the pursuit of happiness, and may be part of the right to religious freedom for some. But, like all of these rights, there are certain laws put in place to help protect individuals and like-wise our communities and families.

    For example, people are free to drink alcoholic drinks, but the law limits the age in which someone can drink, and also it limits people from driving while under the influence of alcohol. I think most would agree that these laws are there to protect individuals and like-wise our families and communities.

    In marriage, there are similar limitations. For example, there are laws that prevent people from marrying there brother or sister, or even 1st cousins in some places. There is evidence that having children in these types of relationships can cause biological disorders. Also there are laws limiting the marriage of young children, meaning they have to have reached a certain age. Again these laws are set for our protection.

    I and many others believe that same sex marriage is destructive to families and therefore communities, and falls under the same laws limiting marriage as the one listed above. The right to marry is not being taken away, it is just given boundaries for our own sake. Just like someone may be upset that they are not free to take harmful drugs, doing so would in the end bring destruction and misery upon themselves and possibly others. Doing that which is contrary to the laws of God, will never bring happiness.

    Some may argue that they don’t believe homosexuality is contrary to God’s laws, but some things are true whether you believe them or not.

  5. Stephen’s avatar

    Shane, with the hetrosexual divorce rate hovering around 50 percent in most states, your argument that allowing same sex marriage will somehow be “destructive to families and therefore communities” defies credibility. How will allowing two committed gay or lesbian consenting adults to marry impact your (presumably) hetrosexual marriage in any way? The answer, of course, that it will not impact you in any way.

  6. Anneke’s avatar

    Ah, how little twists of wording are wielded like weapons.

    A “right” that has never existed in this country’s history but was allowed for a short period of time after a decision by a small number of judges has now been “taken away.”

    Phrasing arguments like this is a real example of what the scriptures warn of – those who will call evil good and good evil. Calling Dallin H. Oaks one of the worst people in the world is an insult to those who are victims of this world’s actually evil people.

    You’re going to look me square in the eyes in a world filled with hate, corruption, prostitution, perversion and the shedding of innocent blood and tell me that Elder Oaks is one of the worst people in the world?

    There’s no comparison.

  7. Jeff’s avatar

    Anneke:

    An interesting perspective on your part.

    How would you feel if any of your rights were put up to a popular vote and then taken away–the right to practice your religion, the right to be a member of a particular church or synagogue, the right to marry a person of a particular religion or ethnic background, the right to vote, the right to free speech, the right to own property, the right to hold a particular job, the right to equal pay for equal work?

    You would–justifiably–be outraged that a majority of the voters of your state could take away one or more of your rights. But that is exactly how gays and lesbians in California and Maine felt when their right to marry the one consenting adult that they love were taken away.

  8. Julio Reverber’s avatar

    What about the fact that Negroes voted for prop 8 at the same level as Mormons? Why are the gays and lesboes not working the NAACP? Interesting! The Negro doesn’t like gays….discuss…

  9. Jeff’s avatar

    Well, Julio, there is absolutely no evidence that African-Americans — at the behest of their church(es) — contributed substantial sums of money in support of the “Yes on [Proposition] 8″ campaign.

    On the other hand, there is substantial evidence of the strong Mormon involvement with the “Yes on 8″ campaign — in time, money and resources. According to a November 14, 2008 article in the New York Times entitled “Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage”, Protect Marriage (a major funding source for the Yes on 8 campaign) “estimates, as much as half of the nearly $40 million raised on behalf of the measure was contributed by Mormons.” Other sources indicate that the amount of funding from Mormons in support of Proposition 8 was higher.

    Was the involvement by Mormons and the LDS Church improper? Other than the LDS Church’s failure to timely report to the Fair Political Practices Commission its in-kind contributions in support of the Yes on 8 campaign, absolutely not. (The church paid a fine for the FPPC violations and the matter has been closed.)

    It is, however, fair to say that the actions by the LDS Church (including recent statements regarding gays and lesbians by Elder Boyd K. Packer) have demonstrated the LDS Church (and at a portion of its members) are no friends of the gay and lesbian community.

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