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The Church has now posted video of Elder Oak’s talk “Religious Freedom” at Newsroom.lds.org.
Listen to Elder Oaks talk, “Religious Freedom.” BYU-Idaho has posted the audio of the talk as downloadable mp3 or podcast [iTunes link].
Please read or listen to it. There is so much more to the talk than what the selective outrage has focused on.
Religious belief is obviously protected against government action. The practice of that belief must have some limits, as I suggested earlier. But unless the guarantee of free exercise of religion gives a religious actor greater protection against government prohibitions than are already guaranteed to all actors by other provisions of the constitution (like freedom of speech), what is the special value of religious freedom? Surely the First Amendment guarantee of free exercise of religion was intended to grant more freedom to religious action than to other kinds of action. Treating actions based on religious belief the same as actions based on other systems of belief should not be enough to satisfy the special place of religion in the United States Constitution.
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Hall of shame or badge of honor? I’ll take the latter, but it just goes to show what power the Associated Press has in setting the standard media message. It lifts one sentence from a talk, distorts the meaning behind it, grossly exaggerating it out of context and news outlets across the country relay it unquestioningly. Then Mr. Olbermann gets to call out Elder Oaks as one of the “worst people in the world” (I guess it lasts for only a day so don’t be too concerned).
Quick aside: are all those who are so concerned about Glenn Beck okay with Keith Olbermann and his brand of “civility”?
Unsurprisingly, the Church-owned Deseret News didn’t follow suit. But the local City Weekly takes umbrage that the DN refused to copy and paste the AP’s characterization of Elder Oaks’ talk and decided to write its own story instead. More outrage.
Curious to hear Elder Oaks explain himself? Ignore the video above and see below.
Check out Rep. Jeff Flake’s (R-AZ, who also happens to be LDS) photos from his survivalist trip to the Marshall Islands (specifically photo #7).
Most coverage of Elder Oaks’ talk on Religious Freedom has centered on one sentence that analogized the intimidation of those trying to exercise their civil rights in the 1960’s with those of today.
Speaking of the backlash following the passage of Proposition 8, Elder Oaks said [emphasis added]:
These incidents were expressions of outrage against those who disagreed with the gay-rights position and had prevailed in a public contest. As such, these incidents of “violence and intimidation” are not so much anti-religious as anti-democratic. In their effect they are like the well-known and widely condemned voter-intimidation of blacks in the South that produced corrective federal civil-rights legislation.
That last sentence generated the following lede from the Associated Press which most other news outlets used in their coverage.
The anti-Mormon backlash after California voters overturned gay marriage last fall is similar to the intimidation of Southern blacks during the civil rights movement, a high-ranking Mormon says in a speech to be delivered Tuesday.
Unfortunately, but perhaps predictably, outrageous outrage ensued that Elder Oaks would dare invoke the civil rights struggle to make his argument.
“Were four little Mormon girls blown up in the church at Sunday school? Were there burning crosses planted on local bishops’ lawns? Were people lynched and their genitals stuffed in their mouths?” asked University of Utah historian Colleen McDannell. “By comparing these two things, it diminishes the real violence that African-Americans experienced in the ’60s, when they were struggling for equal rights. There is no equivalence between the two” . . .
Jeanetta Williams, president of the NAACP’s Salt Lake branch, said there is “no comparison.”
“I don’t see where the LDS Church has been denied any of their rights,” she said. “What the gay and lesbian communities are fighting for, that is a civil-rights issue.”
These two quote illustrate the exact point of view I believe Elder Oaks is trying to overcome. People of faith are just as entitled to participate democratically as anyone else. Although “civil rights” is often considered synonymous with racial equality it’s much more than that, and includes one of the original rights preserved in the First Amendment: religious freedom.
As you can see in the above interview, Elder Oaks is careful not to equate the suffering experienced by black people in the South to modern-day Mormons. Instead, the intended “effect” behind the intimidation of both was similar in purpose. In both instances, opponents sought to discourage or punish those exercising their rights, regardless of race or religion. The intimidation of both were similar in purpose, not in the form.
I believe Elder Oaks used the analogy to call upon the sympathies of those who may not have may not have been so concerned about the aftereffects of Proposition 8 but recall the great injustices of the 1960’s. That shouldn’t be “controversial.”
Interestingly, Elder Oaks prefaced his remarks:
In this time of the Internet, what we say in one place is instantly put before a wider audience, including many to whom we do not intend to speak. That complicates my task, so I ask your understanding as I speak to a very diverse audience.
Elder Oaks was right to be concerned that his words might not be taken as intended.
Elder Dallin H. Oaks spoke at BYU-Idaho today on religious freedom but garnered coverage for his remarks on the lasting effects of Proposition 8.
The anti-Mormon backlash after California voters overturned gay marriage last fall is similar to the intimidation of Southern blacks during the civil rights movement, a high-ranking leader in the LDS Church says in a speech to be delivered Tuesday.
More than just commenting on Prop 8, Elder Oaks’ talk “Religious Freedom” deals with some of the concerns he has with those trying to silence religious voices in political debate and the conflict of religious freedom with “newly alleged civil rights.”
Apparently anticipating the attention this would get Elder Oaks spoke with the AP reporter before the talk.
In an interview Monday before the speech, Elder Oaks said he did not consider it provocative to compare the treatment of LDS Church members in the election’s aftermath to that of blacks in the civil rights era, and said he stands by the analogy.
“It may be offensive to some — maybe because it hadn’t occurred to them that they were putting themselves in the same category as people we deplore from that bygone era,” he said. . .
In an interview Monday, Elder Oaks said the Proposition 8 saga was one of several trends that motivated him to deliver the address, but it was “not the trigger.”
“There are civil rights involved in this — the right to speak your mind, to participate in the election,” Elder Oaks said. “But you don’t have a civil right to win an election or retaliate against those who prevail.”
Elder Oaks said he is specifically concerned about a movement toward using hate crimes laws to prosecute or threaten preachers who preach that homosexual acts are sinful.
Elder Oaks’ address also rejects any religious test for public office. He said that if “a candidate is seen to be rejected at the ballot box primarily because of religious belief or affiliation, the precious free exercise of religion is weakened at its foundation …”
In the interview Monday, Elder Oaks said he was referring in part to the 2008 presidential bid of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, whose LDS faith troubled some evangelicals.
The LDS Newsroom has a news release “Apostle Says Religious Freedom Is Being Threatened.”
Elder Oaks’ talk “Religious Freedom” transcript.
Nuts. Although most of them drive me crazy with their biases, I still would like newspapers to survive. I’m not sure charging for content is the way to go. The Salt Lake Tribune is going to start charging fees next year. And apparently many more newspapers will be doing the same in the next three months. Perhaps the only way it will work is if they all do it once.
Very confusing. I was told it was wrong for out-of-staters to influence a state’s gay marriage initiative. Not anymore I guess.
Somebody at the Salt Lake Tribune is having fun with the RSS feeds

Quite simply, at a time when conservatives find themselves so far out of power that all they can hope to do is stand athwart the Obama administration’s attempt to remake America yelling “stop,” no one has been more effective. “What I find striking is that if Beck were of the Left, taking down (or helping to take down) Bush appointees—with the same bombast and success—he would be hailed as the living reincarnation of the great Muckrakers of yore,” Jonah Goldberg rightly observes. “He’d be the working man’s I. F. Stone, the TV heir to Michael Moore (which is a good thing to the Left). If he explored the roots and idea animating conservatism the way he has with progressivism, he would be a vital service to the education of the nation.”
As another conservative friend of mine says, “Why should we play by the rules laid down by NBC or the New York Times, anyway? Where’s their distress about the incivility at MSNBC or the Huffington Post?” The Left has what most sensible souls would call more than its fair share of over-the-top types—and one of them was just elected to the Senate from Minnesota.
I admit to being unsure what to think about him but he gets results and upsets the right people.
Former Sen. Gordon Smith has a new job in D.C.
The National Association of Broadcasters is naming Gordon Smith, from the law firm Covington & Burling and a former two-term Oregon Senator, as its new president, according to a source familiar with the selection. . .
Smith is described as a moderate Republican who also has good relationships with Democrats. He is a former member of the Senate Commerce and Finance Committees and knows all the broadcast issues. He is also tapped into new media issues as former chair of the Senate’s high-tech task force.
Sen. Hatch’s eulogy gets Sen. Kennedy in trouble over the Angel Moroni.
Former litigants and critics of the Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Temple on Belmont Hill are wondering whether the late Sen. Edward Kennedy used the power of his office to ensure the placement of a controversial spire on top of the Temple, especially after hearing two former Kennedy colleagues’ claims that he did.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, a Republican from Utah, spoke at Kennedy’s memorial service in Boston Friday, conveying to attendees the ability and power Kennedy had to cross political party lines to get things done for friends.
In describing the “graciousness of my dear friend,” Hatch claimed that Kennedy helped secure the placement of the spire on top of the Temple.
“There was another time, when the Mormon Church was nearing completion of its temple here in Boston, Belmont, I think,” Hatch said. “I was approached by several people working in the temple and informed that the city would not allow a spire to be placed on the top of the temple with an angel on top, as is customary on Mormon temples.
“I immediately called Ted and asked for help. Not long after that conversation, he called me back and said, quote, ‘All of Western Massachusetts will see the angel Gabriel on the top of the Mormon Temple’,” Hatch claimed, laughing. “I had to inform Teddy that it was actually the Angel Moroni, a prominent figure in the LDS faith.”
Opponents are not happy with Hatch’s remarks but the a spokesman for the court said that that they had no interaction with Sen. Kennedy. [via Religion Clause]
USA Today: “Update of popular ‘NIV’ Bible due in 2011”
The scholars and publishers behind the world’s leading English language evangelical Bible announced Tuesday that they would publish a updated translation in 2011.
“And we’ll make sure we get it right this time,” says Keith Danby, president and chief executive officer of Biblica, once known as the International Bible Society
More at Christianity Today, “Correcting the ‘Mistakes’ of TNIV and Inclusive NIV, Translators Will Revise NIV in 2011.”
Nigeria temple closed due to violence.
The LDS ttemple in Aba, Nigeria, has been closed indefinitely and workers have been evacuated from the country, following the latest round of violence in the country.
Scott Trotter, a spokesman for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, released a statement on Tuesday confirming that the temple had been closed and workers evacuated as a precautionary measure. The church statement is not specific about the latest incident of violence, but says the facility will remain closed until the situation is addressed.
An e-mail from a temple worker in the country, dated in mid-June, outlines an attack by four gunmen carrying AK-47s in the area of the temple and talks of eight bullet holes being left in the front door of the temple, which it claims led to an evacuation of church workers. The e-mail was forwarded to a church spokesman and precipitated the statement.
via @riyel27
Sen. Bennett runs for FAIR president or something.
Sen. Bob Bennett knows that The Book of Mormon is true, and now he wants others to read how he came to that conclusion in a new book he has written.
The book, published by LDS Church-owned Deseret Book, comes as the Utah Republican faces a tough re-election challenge from within his own party ranks. . .
“I offer it in the hope it will convince all who have an interest in The Book of Mormon, be they believers or skeptics, that any decision with respect to its origins requires a leap of faith,” Bennett wrote in the preface to his 584-page book.
Odd timing but 584 pages seems more than your usual campaign tome.
After the success of Mormon Times, the Deseret News looks to be starting a magazine targeted at the LDS young adult market. Look at this Monster listing:
The Deseret News is seeking to hire a magazine designer and graphic artist to help produce a new weekly publication with an anticipated readership of 18- to 30-years old Latter-day Saints.
[via Glen Warchol, forgive his snark, it's a job requirement at the Trib]
The Church in India. Only 7,500 members strong but plenty of room for growth.
LDS Newsroom launches the Newsroom Blog. I always thought the Newsroom site had become more and more “bloggy.” It will be interesting to see what a real blog will be like.
You may notice a different, more conversational tone on this blog than you would see in official news releases on the Newsroom Web site. This blog will be managed and written by staff of the Public Affairs Department of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The information here will be reliable and accurate but should not necessarily be viewed as official statements from the Church. The purpose of this blog is to provide journalists, bloggers and the public with additional context and information regarding public issues and news stories involving the Church.
A photostream of last week’s replacing a lightning scorched Moroni for a shiny, new one at the Oquirrh Mountain temple. New and improved with two lightning rods!
GetReligion dismantles this weekend’s AP coverage of the “nationwide” “Kiss-ins” which garnered less than 300 demonstrators in three cities.
I’m not Mormon but you don’t have to be to see that this article — which is being published far and wide — is an ugly and unfair journalistic hit piece. The agenda of the reporter is obvious and both she and her editors for this piece should take a refresher course in Journalism 101. Or they should go write for the agenda-driven press where a slanted piece such as this belongs.
Though the demonstrators claim that they are not specifically targeting the Mormon Church, the AP decidedly does so with its headline, “Gay Marriage Fight, `Kiss-Ins’ Smack Mormon Image.” It only gets worse with the story’s content.
The AP’s Jennifer Dobner has been on the Mormon beat for awhile but hasn’t improved much since going to anti-Church critics when reporting on President Monson’s became Church president. Good for GetReligion to take the time to walk through such a distorted example of journalism.
Every thought of starting your own church blog or website but didn’t know where to start? Do you already blog but thought about doing a site devoted to the Gospel? Is one more church website never enough for you?
The More Good Foundation has launched an initiative inviting faithful members who are interested in adopting a website URL. The goal is to share positive content about the Church and who we are as members. Visit SiteAdopt.org for more details.
You can adopt one of our existing websites in an area of your interest and we will train you on how to ‘care for, grow, and nurture the site’–it can be your own or a group’s ‘pet project’ so-to-speak. We’ll show you how to upload content, photos, videos, posts, if you don’t already know how to do those things. You don’t have to create the design or template, or host the site. We do that. You do not even know how to operate a site or upload content. We can show you that too. You do need to know how to type and have an interest in a particular topic that you would like to have shared online as a Mormon, and have a desire to add positive content to the Internet without being preachy or discussing only doctrinal things.
If this sounds like a good idea, you can adopt a site (of course as with any proper adoption you will need to apply and fill out a consent form) and they will help you on your way.







